When was groovy kind of love written

She had a melody, which was basically a piano exercise. The funny thing is, our demo was slower, and much closer to the tempo of the Phil Collins version of the song.

And that version went to No. Once it happened, things changed pretty quickly. Toni was doing a lot of background singing and then married record producer Chips Moman, so I was looking around again for writing partners. I also wrote another song for the Monkees with George Fischoff. You and Toni were so young when you started out, and you sustained that success over the decades.

But literally millions of people try to be songwriters and never make it. So many people have talent, but you also have to have luck and timing — being in the right place at the right time.

When I was young, I was completely driven. I would say not unlike Diane Warren today. The best part of my life was songwriting. It was always my dream, and I simply refused to ever stop. It closed after four performances, but the marquee at the Winter Garden, which is like a block long, stayed up for a year. So every time I walked down that street I saw my failure in giant letters. That played for about 1, performances and helped ease the pain.

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